The process was very personal and friendly. I suspect it is not very hard to get accepted as long as you have the cash. This makes the portfolio and other entrance requirements seem like they are just for show. The advisers I met at this point were not very knowledgeable about the industry or the specifics of the program and couldn't do much more than tell me what I already gathered from their website. If you have very technical questions about the program it is best to ask a recent graduate. They generally don't mind giving you frank feedback. I get such emails all the time, but at this point any advice I have to give is probably a bit out of date.
A Risky Investment
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The Bottom Line
I was pretty cynical for the first few years of my career. I generally told people if you have more money than you know what to do with and want to give it to VFS, and are willing to spend the rest of your life in front of a computer, constantly retrain yourself, never see the light of day anymore, constantly look for new work, move a lot, have no job security, make fairly little money, probably end up popping mood stabilizers as if they were M&M’s just to cope with the stress, eventually probably have your girlfriend or wife leave you (that is, if you can even find one. Computer nerd work = not sexy), never work less than 50 hours a week, be out of work every time any one of the innumerable unions of the film world goes on strike, work miracles every day and still have nobody know your name. If that kind of thing appeals to you, then VFS might be a good choice for you.
In hindsight things are looking a bit rosier for me. It was a long and tough battle, but I had some fantastic adventures since I graduated and I am finally earning some decent money and respect for my work. Some people are just really driven and talented and are bound to succeed at anything they apply themselves to. I struggled a lot to get where I am now, but not everyone had such a hard time. I think I was just really unlucky.
The difference between the top schools and ones with a lesser reputation is largely that the good ones attract a lot more of the star pupils who could go to any school they choose. Naturally those students will go on to achieve great things, but they probably would have done so no matter where they studied. Some will argue with this point, but I speak from experience since I worked at a College for almost a decade before attending VFS. Considering that VFS is a private school with fairly minimal admission requirements it is amazing how many talented students they manage to attract, but they really do.
Ultimately it comes down to return on your investment. This school is extremely expensive and it offers absolutely no guarantee that you will have a career after graduation. If you are extremely confident in your abilities, are willing to make the necessary sacrifices, and can afford the tuition, then this is probably a choice for you. If you have any doubts, then you might be better off getting a lot of books and DVD's and learning on your own. You do not want to have a 50k student loan debt with no work prospects. For most people I would consider VFS a very risky investment.
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27 Comments
When was this review Written? And how acurate is it?
Welcome to the site, Martin!
We made a conscience decision not to include the date the review was written. We think the more relevant date is the author's graduation year. As you can see in the Author Spotlight panel on the left, Remo Wieland is a 2007 graduate of VFS. We were hoping this date would provide more context for the review, as opposed to the date the review was written.
As we are still in beta, however, a lot of features (and decisions) are still being finalized. It's good to hear concerns like yours. If you have any other feedback feel free to head over to our blog and drop us a line. http://blog.artschoolreviews.ca/feedback-suggestions
There is no definitive answer as to how accurate a review is. It is absolutely accurate to the views of the author, as that's all a review is – someone's honest opinion.
Hope this helps!
hey
I have a bachelors degree in advertising and I wish to continue my studies towards the 3D arts and visual FX. I have ZERO knowledge on the field (tools and programs) but this is what if definitely want to pursue. I'm looking for a complete program accountable as Masters degree in US or Canada. I saw what VFS offers but I don't know... it's not very convincing. any suggestions?
It is hard to write a balanced review. I have been told by people who also went to an art college that VFS teaches you more in one year than an ordinary school does during a 4 year degree program. However it is not accredited so you will not have a degree in the subject afterward, but since you already have a degree maybe this is less important? It just comes down to the amount of money. It's a lot. If you are a very talented artist and are sure this is what you want to do, it may be a good option. It's only a bad option if it puts you in debt and you don't end up with a career afterward.
Just a quick FYI, I'm working in the industry and I know precious few with degrees specific to their art. I got my first job before I even had my full results from school, before knowing I graduated with honours! And I "only" have a diploma but got a job a month out of school. In this industry no one cares what paperwork you have or what grades you got, they base whether if not they hire you on your reel! They probably won't even look at your resume (for your first job at least) unless you have already impressed them with your reel.
Trying to get a masters in game design or effects and so on is probably more a bad idea than good. You'll spend forever doing the course as opposed to these more intensive courses in private schools and you'll probably be taught more by people who only teach and not industry professionals. Private schooling is definitely the way to go in this business.
And as for work permits (in case that's why you want a degree), I know that VFS and Vanarts (where I graduated) are in the scheme where you get a post-grad permit of equal length to course. Also, in Canada it's not too difficult to get an LMO for those working in IT so that's a way to stay after that time, you don't need a degree.
I have to say, I find this review very sobering and scary.
I am an American and have been accepted into the 3D animation and Visual Effects program at VFS. I have already paid $2,600.00 to VFS to hold my seat in the program. In March, I am expected to make a larger tuition payment of $13,000.00. Before I am really invested into the program with that amount of money, I am hoping someone can really clear the air about VFS. I am reading some incredibly concerning things online.
For example:
My advisor is telling me job placement out of the 3D program is around 90% or better! This review is saying it's about 20%. That is a HUGE difference!!! What is the truth?
I am a very hardworking 33 year old man who already holds a BFA in illustration from RISD. I also have over a decade of experience working as an Art Director, and in recent years as a freelance illustrator. I'm not afraid of hard work, and I have some very strong art and design skills.
That said, I have never used Maya or other 3D software. I need to be able to get a good job after graduating VFS. I didn't realize a lot of the reels I am seeing on the VFS website are from students that may have already had 3D experience. Is it really possible for a talented illustrator to have a competitive reel for 3D modeling (not having used 3D software prior to attending VFS) in one year?
If you have any insight, I'd love to hear your thoughts. I don't want to make a huge mistake and spend $53,000.00 to wind up penniless, and unable to get a job in animation, or like this fellow, have it take several years of trying to break into the industry. I just don't have that kind of time or money to spare. Help!
regarding the 90% vs. 20% issue, I would try to ask a more recent graduate. It certainly was quite low in my time there and I'd be suspicious of any school claiming a 90% success rate. That being said, business is booming in Vancouver these days, so it might actually be bit better than it was.
I didn't mean to imply that every talented student there had previous industry experience, but a good deal of the jaw-dropping amazing stuff, yes.
It sounds like you have a strong art background already, this should help you out a lot. If you can wrap your head around the technical stuff you should do quite well. Even if your reel isn't as amazing as the best things you have seen online, this does not mean you won't be able to find a job. Good timing, persistence and luck factor in too.
I don't know what kind of art you did previously so it's hard to know how to advise. I have been known to talk the odd person out of it, but you actually might be fine.
Mind you, if you have already been working as an Art Director, why would you want to become a modeler? That's a bit of a salary cut...
Thank you very much for your honest and truthful reply.
I was an Art Director for print, and the salary at my former job wasn't so hot.
I've always been enamored with characters and animation, so I was looking to VFS to help me make a transition from the print industry to film or games. If entry level modelers make 40-60 k, I would be happy with that. I'm in it for the love of animation rather than the love of money.
I'm taking your advice and reaching out to some recent grads to get a sense of the current placement rates.
Thanks so much for your help.
If i were you I'd go to Digital Tutors or CGPersia and practice modeling. I can honestly tell you that the industry could care less about your diploma, They care about your skills. I was in the 3D Animation and visual Effects course and I can honestly tell you that you are better off teaching yourself everything. They charge way too much money. 20% in my class got hired last I checked. Check out my review "VFS Delusion" for my experience.
As a graduate of the 12-month film program a few years earlier than Remo's date, and currently employed at a major VFX house, I've had a chance to talk with a lot of grads in film, 3D and animation. I find Remo's review here sobering, accurate and comparable to my own experiences. Take that for what its worth.
Remo, I'm interested in knowing more about your technicality with immigrations as I have exactly the same experience and it really affected my career. I wasn't prepared for how subjective the border patrol would be, and after 3 years as a management consultant on a TN for a major studio, I was denied a renewal based upon an on the spot assessment of my daily tasks. "Those tasks dont belong to Management Consultant" was the feedback received as they checked over their manuals (written in the 90's), Each border entry has a different history of what they do and do not consider a certain class. Research your entry point and choose wisely.
Hello David,
My "technicality" visa wise was being an idiot. I was in the US working for Troublemaker on a TN1 visa and while under contract with them, during a slow time, I took on some other work for a few weeks. I vaguely knew from previous reading that you could have more than one employer at a time, but didn't know you had to go back to a border and get a separate TN work permit for that. A year later when I went to renew my TN work permit at a different border they googled me and found out about the other job. They freaked out, took my work permit away and ordered me to leave the country in 15 days and now I have a "file" which makes getting another permit that much harder.
I have since then become a bit more of an expert on the matter. I think the easiest fit for our type of work is as "graphic designer". You need to look at their definition of graphic designer and sprinkle a lot of their language in all your documents (resume, job letter...) refer to yourself just as a "graphics designer for film" or some such thing... Here's a link to their outdated graphic designer definition: http://www.grasmick.com/dot.htm#Graphic
I would not really recommend something like management consultant or anything else that sounds vague. That is probably used all the time by people for purposes not strictly in keeping with the intent of that visa class so will be closely examined.
hi ,
I'm a 16 years old Egyptian student who's really looking forward to become a game designer. As imagined we don't have a good game designing industry in Egypt if any ! After making contact with VFS I wasn't sure really if it's the right beginning for me.
To cut it short ,I need to ask if it's better to go to a private school ( VFS ) or a college like VCAD ??
The nerdy life still just doesn't attract me ( living in front of my computer ) , so does it become a lifestyle or what ?
thanks.
I`m not sure if you mean Game designer as in the person who plans the game out, or if you mean the person who creates the 3D art for it. VFS has a program for both. I don`t know anything about the game design program, only the 3D one.
If you grow into the lifestyle eventually, that is a personal thing. That depends on you. My feeling is that if you end up being good at it and stick with it, it will grow on you. But if you already have reservations about it now, I`d say you probably will not be amazing and you are more likely to become frustrated and give up before you get a chance to get good. I would not recommend this program unless you are completely sure about what you want to do and nothing else interests you. You should be excited and enthusiastic right from the start or you won`t have much of a chance competing with everyone else who puts in endless hours for their demo reel because they feel so passionate about it.
Actually I'm still deciding between both . Don't get me wrong I'm really enthusiastic about it , I know I've got what it takes to compete with others and to success .. But I've no background about game designing or 3D animation schools /colleges in Canada or elsewhere. That's why I'm a bit concerned about going in the wrong direction.
Hey foreigner,
I would suggest if you are really wanting to go to school, you should go to Think Tank Training Center in North Vancouver or the Gaming and Art Institute of Fredericton. They are much cheaper then VFS and TGIF provides you with a Wacom tablet; a Digital-Tutors subscription; a computer with software to keep; and a tuition that is close to 27, 000 dollars cheaper. Rent in Fredericton is not outrageous, too, so it's extremely affordable to live.
Hello Remo, I really appreciate your review and I wanted to thank you for that, I'm currently studying a Bachelor in my country of residence and I'm looking forward to get the best option of a school in 3D Animation, I''ve heard good things about Think Tank, what can you tell me about what you've heard?, or other options you can recommend me too?, thank you very much again and have a good day :)!
I'm not sure if they were around when I first started to do my research about schools . I have heard of them since then, but nothing specific. I've never worked with anyone who studied there, but that doesn't mean anything. They might be small or newer so maybe that's why I haven't met their graduates. It sounds like a decent deal, but find out how many lecture hours there are in their program and how long you get to work on your demo reel. If they have considerably fewer hours then you know where the savings are coming from. If not it might be a decent option, but you'd have to talk to a graduate from there to know for sure. I can't really say for sure either way, I only know VFS. And even that I only know from several years ago.
VFS is a waste of money - its a business at that and us students pay them large sums of money and there rubbish
hello Remo. i sent my cv to vfs and asked for a scolarship, they called me with a 30.000 us scolarship, i still have to pay 20.000 plus living expensives.
Are those scolarship granted to everyone? ( i mean, it's a catch right?)
i already know some of maya,3dmax, programming and stuff ( worked 5 years making social games and animation). My portafolio it's not bad, but i want to get better. Why people who aready have the skill still go to vfs? its Vfs good to make direct contact with big companies?
I don't know if this is a good choice, or im being extremely lazy... these days a lot of people can learn 3d or game design just watching youtube or lynda. I don't want to spend 20.000 to learn the same stuff that its already posted online.
Sorry my poor english.
Thank you!
For a non-Canadian I believe the normal tuition is around 50000, so it is an actual scholarship. Not everyone gets that kind of deal. They seem to do that in one of two circumstances: either they are really impressed with your work and feel having you as a graduate will make them look good, or they were having trouble filling a class so they'd rather make $20000 than nothing at all on that seat.
There definitely have been a lot of experienced students attending VFS in the past. Their work is generally amazing and I'm sure they improved a lot. VFS drives you very hard, and having a full year to work on improving your skills all around is definitely helpful for some. Whether it's worth it to you since it doesn't sound like you have trouble finding work is another question. Depends on what you want to achieve and how financially secure you are. Also depends on if you are the kind of person who has the discipline and basic understanding to teach yourself what you need to learn. It would be hard if you were a total novice like I was.
Where do you live? Are there a lot of 3D jobs there? How good are your chances of paying off a $20000+ student loan?
Wow, that's sound harsh :/
Keep calm and be strong. Actually i have the same idea as you, Save money and spend a good simple life, i don' mind the kind of work i do later ( 3d for free-lance / hobby )
Well, i'm going to pass this scholarship, i will keep my old plan (moving to japan, do some part-time jobs, saving money). I may take VFS but not now .
They called me again today, i asked how many scholarship they have, the girl answer me "now we have plenty of them". I think that the course are not popular this year.
Was really nice to talk with you Remo, ( and helped me to practice my english ).
Bes regards
Hi again Remo, i'm from Chile.
3d Job here are not vast but we lack people with skills on paper.
Did u saw "the chase"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whzGqeWTKjM , it's a Chilean Animation done by some folks with no prior knowledge (youtube and google).
It's a country that is growing and recently game companies from other countries are buying all our small companies (japan/usa). Right now people with skills in games / 3d have no problem finding jobs.
My goal, move from chile to won more money, 3d jobs here pay 1.400~2.000us /monthly, what about Canada ( 5.000~8.000us)? I'm not happy with 2.000us, so maybe if i get a VFS 'degree' i can get a job in another country or at least be the boss around here.
Actually i can pay $20.000 + living expensives with no problems, well, at the end i will be kind of broke, but no loans or bank debt. ( it's the money i saved for living in japan a couple of years, lol ).
Anyways, thank you for your reply, i really apreciate it.
pd: are you Happy? work/money/life? Are you saving money to quit? I mean, 3d is a subject that you have to keep learning, and learning...
Salaries vary a lot here depending on where you work, how much experience you have and what job you are doing. Anywhere from $3000-6500 monthly. I think if you go to VFS you can apply for a student work visa afterward so you could get a job here maybe after graduation. It's not the easiest place to look for your first job after school because there is a lot of competition, but then it's not your first job, so you might do well that way.
As for if I am happy? Currently I'm having to work 7 day weeks again and came home after midnight regularly. The project I'm working on is hell. I barely see my girlfriend even though we live together. I feel stressed and sick, and tired and do kind of wish I had a job with normal hours and less worry. There is no work/life balance in this career. At least not in north america. I'm just trying to save as much money as quickly as I can because I'm not sure I want to do this for he rest of my life. Once I can afford to buy a house I may quit and do something else. I don't care if I end up flipping burgers in a Mc Donald's, at least I'll have my sanity.
Wow, that's sound harsh :/
Keep calm and be strong. Actually i have the same idea as you, Save money and spend a good simple life, i don' mind the kind of work i do later ( 3d for free-lance / hobby )
Well, i'm going to pass this scholarship, i will keep my old plan (moving to japan, do some part-time jobs, saving money). I may take VFS but not now .
They called me again today, i asked how many scholarship they have, the girl answer me "now we have plenty of them". I think that the course are not popular this year.
Was really nice to talk with you Remo, ( and helped me to practice my english ).
Bes regards
(please, delete the other post, lol, srry)
Hi Remo,
Very interesting article about VFS.
I have a son(23 years old) who is a film maker and has been contemplating going to VFS,in hopes of advancing his career goals.
I note all your experiences with VFS is in regards to gaming/3d.
My son's goals are a bit different ,he wants to make movies for a living.
What can you tell me about those who attended VFS for film making and how their careers developed after graduating.
Do you think the financial risk would lead to a career worthy of attending VFS?
He has made two full length movies and in the process of editing up his third.
You can view them on youtube,here's his second one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmQJlD59e2k
Are scholarships readily available for film makers too?
Any information you can throw my way would be greatly appreciated.
-George
I'm afraid I really can't give any informed advice about that program. It is run completely separately from the 3D program and in a different building. I never met any of those guys. I don't know how that program compares to other schools. I'm not sure how much the choice of school matters when it comes to that career. I suspect that since it would be less technical and more artistic it really would just come down to how good your body of work is and how good you are at making industry connections. What school did Martin Scorsese go to or George Lucas? Who knows. I think most of the arts work that way. The choice of school has probably very little to do with your future career success. But this is just an opinion.
Thanks Remo, after I sent you the email,I did find two people who gave a review on the program.
I tend to agree with you and I can tell from the two who wrote on their VFS experience, the program would do nothing for my son,except cost him money he doesn't have or that could be
used to help create another movie.
Thanks again for your input,
-George